A bit argumentative you know you have won the argument when Challenge Cup has 6-8 clubs show up. I do not think it is getting traction and I am not blaming anyone. It is primarily just a lack of interest. Nobody even wants to host Challenge Cup anymore and that was obvious at the meeting this past weekend. Stan who? Biggest Beer can race I know of is Gulfport to Pensacola. I don't think that you are the problem. I see folks shifting to OD on the lake. If you can't see the trend and the class that people are going to I can not help you.